This will be brief.
I had to follow up on my last post to mention that today my scout got his revenge on the criminal Ibis pilot, Lard Jadise, who attempted to gank him yesterday. This character was basically a hauler alt and decoy miner, with only minimal combat skills, but he was at least able to fit out a Rifter, and decided to execute his killright himself, rather than outsourcing it.
When he noticed that Lord Jadise was online and back in Nakugard, he took his Rifter and went out hunting. He started by warping to the first asteroid belt while he checked dscan at max range and 360 degrees. Sure enough, "Lord Jadise's Hulk" was right on there, and when he landed in the top belt, he learned that he would need to look no further - the rebel was right there, within warp disruptor range. The results were predictable but nonetheless satisfying.
As an added bonus, Dog was able to obtain 100 million isk in ransom before carrying out the rebel's sentence. Also, the fellow's corpmates warped in and served as an audience for the whole thing in some formidable looking combat ships. Unfortunately, they didn't attempt a gank, and would have failed if they had, as some charitable individual had already spawned CONCORD in the belt.
I apologize for nothing!
Haedonism Bot - PvPer, Ninja, Ganker, Scammer, Pirate, Belligerent Undesirable, Knight of the New Order. The story of one man and many alts on a mission to destroy EVE Online and make off with all its loots.
Friday, May 10, 2013
Thursday, May 9, 2013
2 Hulks, a Retriever, and an Ibis
It's springtime in New England. The sun is shining, the birds are chirping, et cetera, et cetera. As a result, I haven't been playing as much EVE Online as usual. I've been getting outside a lot, riding my bicycle and enjoying the beautiful weather, only getting online for a couple hours at a time, two or three times per week. I can always make time, however, to enrich the gameplay experience of the highsec mining community by enforcing the New Halaima Code of Conduct.
Welcome to Nakugard
Nakugard is a 0.5 security system in Minmatar space, right next door to Hek, the 5th largest trade hub in EVE. Nakugard has 23 asteroid belts and 1 ice belt, and at any given moment there are typically around 100 people in local chat, many of them miners. Bot-aspirancy is an accepted, indeed a celebrated part of the local culture. When scouting the area, I was horrified and disgusted to see miners making comments like, "I'm going afk," and "love afk mining," in local chat without a hint of shame or remorse.
Nakugard has clearly already felt the influence of the New Order. The ice belt is full of Skiffs and Procurers. James 315 and the New Order are a frequent topic of conversation. While many of the local miners are well aware of the Code, the system seems to have become a sort of hub for rebels and their sympathizers. Clearly they are in need of some punitive action, and I've been spending some of my extremely limited game time to do my part by ganking any exhumers I find floating around without a tank.
demmon6
This incorrigable bot-aspirant was found mining Scordite in the asteroid belts alongside his alt, Demmon666. My scout found them there in two Hulks, mining away and barely aware of their surroundings. When my scout warped in with a Procurer and sidled right up to them at 500 meters it raised no alarms. A ship scanner revealed no tank on either of them. My scout made himself comfortable, pointed his strip miner at a rock, and waited.
Meanwhile, my alt H3donism Bot rushed to the area from six or seven jumps away, threw together a Gankalyst in Hek, and jumped into Nakugard. The minutes that had passed had done nothing to alert the target. I saw no reason to delay any longer, so I warped in and cleansed the belt of demmon6's Hulk with purifying fire. Surprisingly, he then found his way back to the keyboard:
[ 2013.05.03 15:17:05 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Local : Nakugard
[ 2013.05.03 15:20:15 ] H3donism Bot > gf
[ 2013.05.03 15:20:56 ] demmon6 > all watch out for H3donism Bot (GANKER)
[ 2013.05.03 15:22:21 ] H3donism Bot > slander!
[ 2013.05.03 15:22:38 ] H3donism Bot > i demand an apology!
[ 2013.05.03 15:23:56 ] Demmon666 > kill your self
[ 2013.05.03 15:24:44 ] H3donism Bot > that isn't very nice :(
[ 2013.05.03 15:24:58 ] Demmon666 > your not very nice
[ 2013.05.03 15:25:07 ] Demmon666 > so kill your self
[ 2013.05.03 15:26:09 ] H3donism Bot > all this unpleasantness could have been avoided if you had just purchased a mining permit
[ 2013.05.03 15:26:32 ] H3donism Bot > have a little respect for the law in highsec, bro
[ 2013.05.03 15:26:59 ] mammasita > H3donism Bot hey ur not concord lol
[ 2013.05.03 15:27:20 ] mammasita > H3donism Bot and thoes permits is like toilet paper lol
[ 2013.05.03 15:27:48 ] mammasita > Demmon666 i wouldn't say that not nice and i think CCP can band u from the game
[ 2013.05.03 15:27:55 ] mammasita > but dont qout me on that
[ 2013.05.03 15:28:03 ] H3donism Bot > James 315 is the law in highsec, and I am a knight of the new order, so enforcing the law is my business
[ 2013.05.03 15:28:17 ] mammasita > no he's not lol
[ 2013.05.03 15:28:35 ] mammasita > he more of a joke in HS then anythings, sorry to say
[ 2013.05.03 15:28:57 ] Estherenza > ^
[ 2013.05.03 15:29:19 ] H3donism Bot > Kill: demmon6 (Hulk) obey the Code, or this could happen to any of you, as sad as it makes me
[ 2013.05.03 15:29:43 ] mammasita > COME AT ME BROOO i anit scuuured
[ 2013.05.03 15:29:48 ] H3donism Bot > www.minerbumping.com
Dralanku
After demmon6, I had to run, the out-of-game world wanted me. A few days later I was able to log on once more and scout around. I was sad to see that the local miners hadn't yet learned to respect the Code. They were back out there, doing what they always do. I steeled myself to carry out my duty, and began scouting for another target.
It took only a few minutes to find Dralanku in his Hulk, sitting right on top of his alt in an Orca. Dralanku was clearly afk. When my scout Procurer arrived and got in position to provide a warp-in his mining lasers weren't even active. He was just sitting there idle in space. Eventually, as I was making myself ready, he turned them on, but remained oblivious to the world around him. I don't know about you all, but if I was a miner it would make me pretty nervous if somebody I didn't know warped to my belt, approached me to 500 meters, and stayed there mining. Somehow it almost never tips them off, as obvious a setup as it is.
I warped in and blasted him, of course. This time I made a youtube video! It's a new thing for me, so be kind, I just uploaded it as is, with no editing.
a rookie ship. We figured it had to either be some kind of passive aggressive "carebear stare", or maybe the fellow was scanning his ship to see if he was fitted as a gank scout. My scout decided that whatever it was, it wasn't getting us another exhumer kill, so he started aligning to warp off. Just as he did, his overview flashed red. The Bear was indeed trying to gank a Procurer with an Ibis.
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| The ice fields of Nakugard |
Nakugard is a 0.5 security system in Minmatar space, right next door to Hek, the 5th largest trade hub in EVE. Nakugard has 23 asteroid belts and 1 ice belt, and at any given moment there are typically around 100 people in local chat, many of them miners. Bot-aspirancy is an accepted, indeed a celebrated part of the local culture. When scouting the area, I was horrified and disgusted to see miners making comments like, "I'm going afk," and "love afk mining," in local chat without a hint of shame or remorse.
Nakugard has clearly already felt the influence of the New Order. The ice belt is full of Skiffs and Procurers. James 315 and the New Order are a frequent topic of conversation. While many of the local miners are well aware of the Code, the system seems to have become a sort of hub for rebels and their sympathizers. Clearly they are in need of some punitive action, and I've been spending some of my extremely limited game time to do my part by ganking any exhumers I find floating around without a tank.
demmon6
This incorrigable bot-aspirant was found mining Scordite in the asteroid belts alongside his alt, Demmon666. My scout found them there in two Hulks, mining away and barely aware of their surroundings. When my scout warped in with a Procurer and sidled right up to them at 500 meters it raised no alarms. A ship scanner revealed no tank on either of them. My scout made himself comfortable, pointed his strip miner at a rock, and waited.
Meanwhile, my alt H3donism Bot rushed to the area from six or seven jumps away, threw together a Gankalyst in Hek, and jumped into Nakugard. The minutes that had passed had done nothing to alert the target. I saw no reason to delay any longer, so I warped in and cleansed the belt of demmon6's Hulk with purifying fire. Surprisingly, he then found his way back to the keyboard:
[ 2013.05.03 15:17:05 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Local : Nakugard
[ 2013.05.03 15:20:15 ] H3donism Bot > gf
[ 2013.05.03 15:20:56 ] demmon6 > all watch out for H3donism Bot (GANKER)
[ 2013.05.03 15:22:21 ] H3donism Bot > slander!
[ 2013.05.03 15:22:38 ] H3donism Bot > i demand an apology!
[ 2013.05.03 15:23:56 ] Demmon666 > kill your self
[ 2013.05.03 15:24:44 ] H3donism Bot > that isn't very nice :(
[ 2013.05.03 15:24:58 ] Demmon666 > your not very nice
[ 2013.05.03 15:25:07 ] Demmon666 > so kill your self
[ 2013.05.03 15:26:09 ] H3donism Bot > all this unpleasantness could have been avoided if you had just purchased a mining permit
[ 2013.05.03 15:26:32 ] H3donism Bot > have a little respect for the law in highsec, bro
[ 2013.05.03 15:26:59 ] mammasita > H3donism Bot hey ur not concord lol
[ 2013.05.03 15:27:20 ] mammasita > H3donism Bot and thoes permits is like toilet paper lol
[ 2013.05.03 15:27:48 ] mammasita > Demmon666 i wouldn't say that not nice and i think CCP can band u from the game
[ 2013.05.03 15:27:55 ] mammasita > but dont qout me on that
[ 2013.05.03 15:28:03 ] H3donism Bot > James 315 is the law in highsec, and I am a knight of the new order, so enforcing the law is my business
[ 2013.05.03 15:28:17 ] mammasita > no he's not lol
[ 2013.05.03 15:28:35 ] mammasita > he more of a joke in HS then anythings, sorry to say
[ 2013.05.03 15:28:57 ] Estherenza > ^
[ 2013.05.03 15:29:19 ] H3donism Bot > Kill: demmon6 (Hulk) obey the Code, or this could happen to any of you, as sad as it makes me
[ 2013.05.03 15:29:43 ] mammasita > COME AT ME BROOO i anit scuuured
[ 2013.05.03 15:29:48 ] H3donism Bot > www.minerbumping.com
Dralanku
After demmon6, I had to run, the out-of-game world wanted me. A few days later I was able to log on once more and scout around. I was sad to see that the local miners hadn't yet learned to respect the Code. They were back out there, doing what they always do. I steeled myself to carry out my duty, and began scouting for another target.
It took only a few minutes to find Dralanku in his Hulk, sitting right on top of his alt in an Orca. Dralanku was clearly afk. When my scout Procurer arrived and got in position to provide a warp-in his mining lasers weren't even active. He was just sitting there idle in space. Eventually, as I was making myself ready, he turned them on, but remained oblivious to the world around him. I don't know about you all, but if I was a miner it would make me pretty nervous if somebody I didn't know warped to my belt, approached me to 500 meters, and stayed there mining. Somehow it almost never tips them off, as obvious a setup as it is.
I warped in and blasted him, of course. This time I made a youtube video! It's a new thing for me, so be kind, I just uploaded it as is, with no editing.
Vik silf and Lord Jadise
Several hours later, I was back at the computer, and figured I'd seek out another target. My scout located a Hulk and a Mackinaw in an asteroid belt. The Hulk warped off shortly after he got there, but the Mack stayed and scans proved that he was tankless. I got my gank alt ready.
Just as I was getting ready to go at it, the Mack warped off. I figured he might just be headed back to station to drop off his ore and return, so I bided my time. Suddenly, my scout noticed flashing on his overview. A retriever on the far end of the belt, which we had been ignoring, had just gone suspect! And was continuing to mine! This was too good to be true and had to be taken advantage of. My scout quickly dropped a corp bookmark on one of the roids near the Retriever, while my gank alt jumped into system. I warped to the bookmark and lawfully killed the criminal miner, then warped away with my Catalyst intact and docked up.
My scout then moved in, looted and salvaged the wreck. As he was doing this, he noticed that the escaped Mackinaw pilot had returned to the belt, but in an Ibis. This was a curious development indeed. The Ibis approached him, and my scout watched, curious what the pilot's intentions might be. The Ibis yellowboxed him.
We considered what this could mean. Surely the Ibis pilot wasn't going to gank a tanked Procurer with
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| The Catalyst - Highsec Code Enforcement |
At that point, it was too late to abort the warp, so he bounced right back and found the pod floating there stationary, locked it up and killed it with his Warrior 1s for the best podkill so far in our Nakugard campaign. GFs were exchanged all around. Well...mostly the GFs were from us, with the botters, bot-aspirants and shameless rebels in local studiously ignoring us.
Following Through
Ganking miners is always a charity. Those of us who do it, do it more as a service to the EVE community as a whole than for profit or lulz. That being the case, it is always best to reach out to the miners involved and explain to them the reasons why their ship was singled out for destruction. Lately I have been sending out a form EVE mail used by the New Order, and often offering friendly advice in local chat as well, so the greater community of the solar system can benefit as well.
Unfortunately, carebears are, generally speaking, an ungrateful and vulgar people. Some of the replies that you receive display a true lack of class. Go to www.minerbumping.com and check out the weekly Highsec Miner Grab Bag posts for some real insight into the true nature of the EVE carebear. I promise you it will be both amusing and enlightening.
For those of you who want more, here's a couple chatlogs I recorded during all this:
Wednesday, May 1, 2013
The Dark Arts: A Newbie's Handbook for Evil Shenanigans
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| Even Newbies can be Space Pirates |
Lately I have been seeing a lot of threads on the forums to the tune of "I'm a newbie and I want to be a pirate", and I've been thinking a lot about my own early days in the game. Before I had even finished the tutorials I heard that it was possible to pirate other players in this game, and I knew that was what I wanted to do. Then I fell in with a bad crowd (EVE University) who fooled me into thinking that the pirate lifestyle was either somehow morally wrong or that it took a lot of SP to do it right. The first argument is downright silly, but you will hear it a lot if you choose this lifestyle. EVE is a role playing game, and it is always fun to role play the bad guy. There is absolutely nothing that you can do in an in-game context that is immoral or unethical, so long as you are not breaching the EULA or Rules of Conduct. The second argument is also untrue - there is no SP requirement for being a pirate.
E-Uni also fooled me into subscribing to a fallacious notion of what an EVE pirate actually is. The myth that I bought into was that piracy consisted of living in lowsec, having -10 sec status, and tackling people and holding them for ransom. This is, indeed, one form of piracy, but it is far from the whole picture. I started my pirating career in low and nullsec, and found that while I was having fun there, I couldn't afford to support myself financially by criminal activity alone, so I made the move to pirating in highsec so that I could pay the bills without needing to resort to any sort of PVE or otherwise "legitimate" forms of making isk. This has worked out well, because highsec piracy is extremely lucrative compared to low or null.
I define EVE piracy, personally, as any act that involves blowing up other people's ships when they haven't consented to a PvP encounter, or making off with their isk or possessions either through theft, intimidation, or deception while flying imaginary spaceships. That covers a lot of ground, I know. Piracy, in all these forms, is a noble and rewarding occupation, and it is worth arguing that it is the exact thing which makes EVE special and distinguishes it from other games. As a new player, you can participate and theoretically be successful in any form of piracy that you can imagine. However, in my experience there are some forms of piracy that work quite well for new players and others which don't, which may lead you to get frustrated and give up on it. My focus here today will be to discuss what you can do with reasonable odds of success. With a little luck and perseverance, you should be able to swear off carebearing altogether and begin funding your EVE career solely off the tears of your victims.
Preparation
A pirate is a higher class of EVE player than the common rabble. He talks smack in local with wit and coherence while the carebears are fuming and cursing at him. His success is often based on superior situational awareness and understanding of game mechanics as much as it is on SP. He has the correct frame of mind to be an EVE predator, understanding that his ships are disposable tools, and perhaps most importantly, the pirate has friends. The carebear, by way of caparison, may have a lot of SP and a large, shiny ship, but he is only dimly aware what is going on around him most of the time, and when he loses a ship he cries as if you had murdered a member of his family. He also has no friends, generally speaking, preferring to play EVE as a single player game. This is what makes him so vulnerable to attack. If you intend to succeed at this, it is important that you do some homework to prepare yourself. While this may seem boring, in the long run it will serve you well.
Overview
The overview is that big rectangular spreadsheet in the upper right corner of your screen that you can see when you are in space. It lists all sorts of information about the things around you. You can customize this to show only the information you need without a lot of distracting crap. Or, if you are lazy like me, you can download somebody else's customized overview settings. Lately I have been playing with Sarah's Overview Pack and like it very much. Read the instructions carefully and don't neglect to follow all the steps of the unfucking process. (I just had to use the word "unfucking", it is my favorite new word). Once you have your basic overview and start getting out there and commiting crimes, you can further customize it for your own specific needs.
Dscan
Learn what this is and how to use it. The directional scanner is one of the pirate's most useful tools, and one gives us a huge advantage over the average care bear, who is only dimly aware that such a thing exists and has no idea what to do with it. Basically, dscan will show you what it going on around you in space that isn't close enough to see on your overview. This is how you hunt people down efficiently, and how you avoid being caught by people who are hunting you.
I'm not going to spell everything out for you - do your homework. Check out EVE University's Guide. Learn to love your dscanner. Keep it open all the time and spam the scan button constantly. Practice finding people when you are bored. Get comfortable with it.
Intel
Your most immediate source of intel is always your local chat. Unless you are in a wormhole, your local chat window will list the names of all the pilots in system with you. Separate this chat window from all the others and keep it open at all times. There are a number of other tools that the game gives you to for gathering intel. Play around with the features of the in-game map (press F10), and you will be amazed how much information it will give you. You also have a watchlist and locator agents to help you hunt specific individuals. There are great out-of-game tools as well, like Dotlan and Eve-Kill. This is just scratching the surface of what is out there.
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| We all need a friend sometimes... |
The last thing that I would argue is necessary to being a successful pirate at an early age is friends. I'm not saying that it is impossible to go it completely alone, just that it is much more difficult and probably less fun. Much of what you will be doing here is coldly dicking over other players and corporations. Pretty much all of EVE will soon be fair game for you - but nonetheless, I urge you to find a group of people who are cool with you being a dirty criminal, and to be honest and straightforward with those guys. A lot of the acts of piracy we are going to talk about are really meant to be done in a group. Your friends could be a corporation or alliance, or it could be an informal community like James 315's New Order or the Belligerent Undesirables.
A good group can help you by providing the manpower and support that you need to pull these things off. They can also give you advice and information that will be useful as you go along. They'll teach you how to fit your ships competently and direct you to lots of out-of-game tools and resources. They'll teach you how to survive and get around in low, null, and holes. Just beware if they start saying things like "You can't..." or "You shouldn't..." If you start hearing things like that very often, cross them off your list of friends and start looking for any corp assets laying around that you can steal or destroy.
Evil Shenanigans and Wanton Bad Behavior
Easy Mode
Ninja Looting/Baiting
Ninja looting is the practice of scanning down highsec mission-runners with combat scanner probes and warping into their mission pockets to steal the loot and/or salvage the wrecks. It is a traditional form of piracy with a long history in EVE, and can be quite lucrative. The carebears also hate it, which makes for lively local chat and bounty mails in your inbox. Ninja baiting is an extension of this, which some individuals have elevated to an art. It is the act whereby you taunt the mission runners into shooting at you, which creates a limited engagement and allows you to shoot back without getting CONCORDed. Then you kill them or hold their ship for ransom. Or both.
Suicide Ganking
Suicide ganking is another pretty easy way to ruin another player's day for fun and profit in highsec. It is easy, anyway, if you have a realistic sense of what you want to do and enough people to pull it off. The execution is simple - you find a target and blow it up before CONCORD can show up and destroy you, then you have another character loot the wrecks and run off with the loot. As easy as this is, a lot of people screw it up when they first attempt it. You basically just have to understand the math behind it. If you look up the info about your ship, you can see your rate of fire and damage per volley. You then look up CONCORD response times for the system you are in and calculate how many volleys you will get. If your total damage exceeds the EHP of the target ship, then you know you will win. Or if you are lazy, let Psychotic Monk do the math for you.
If you are doing this for pure profit, then you best bet will be to target haulers, or alternately to hunt mission-runners and incursion runners. For years, miner ganking was a fun and profitable way to pass an afternoon playing EVE. Unfortunately, the game developers hate it when people have fun, so they tweaked the game mechanics in order to make it pretty difficult to actually turn a profit from ganking miners. Then along came James 315, the Savior of Highsec. He reimburses your losses from miner ganking, making it once again a profitable occupation. Check out his website at www.minerbumping.com for more info. Click the "Gank" tab to get info about how to train your Catalyst pilot and how to get involved in his movement.
Corporate Infiltration
I call this a "slightly harder" activity, but it can either be very easy or very hard, depending on your specific marks and the goals that you set for yourself. The basic idea is simple - join a corporation with the intention of doing them harm. This can mean going on a wanton killing spree of your corp-mates, protected by the game mechanic which allows you to shoot your corpmates in highsec without getting CONCORDed. This is called "going on Safari," or "AWOXing". Other possibilities are corporate theft or abusing their trust to scam the members out of their isk and assets. The possibilities are limited only by your imagination and the extent of your own evil nature. And as you are playing a role-playing game, there is no reason to allow your conscience to limit you.
Corporate infiltration can be done in high, low, or nullsec, or in wormholes. Wormhole corporations in particular are quite vulnerable to it, as they are forced to live out of, and store all their assets in, Player Owned Starbases (POSes), which tend to be vulnerable to in-corp thefts.
Psychotic Monk recently wrote an excellent guide to Safariing highsec carebear corps which is well worth a read.
Reverse AWOXing
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| Hey there, new recruit... |
Closely related to the above, this is another particularly evil stunt that can make you lots of isk, get you lots of kills, and earn you lots of pretty much harmless enemies. Train the skill Corporation Management to 1, and form your own corporation. Give it a name and description that will be appealing to your chosen class of targets. All this should cost an initial investment of 1.6 million isk or so.
Say, for example, you want to target miners. So you fit yourself out a nice destroyer to do your killing, you form your corp and name it something like "AWOX Industries". Then you write a corp description that says something along the lines of "We are a young corp focused on Mining, PVE, and PVP. We run weekly mining ops. Currently recruiting miners, as well as Orca and freighter pilots." Then you pitch the corp a bit until somebody applies. When they do, make up a bullshit mining op or something to lure them in, then tackle them, kill their drones if they have them, and hold their ship for ransom. Then kill them and loot/salvage the wreck. And repeat.
Say, for example, you want to target miners. So you fit yourself out a nice destroyer to do your killing, you form your corp and name it something like "AWOX Industries". Then you write a corp description that says something along the lines of "We are a young corp focused on Mining, PVE, and PVP. We run weekly mining ops. Currently recruiting miners, as well as Orca and freighter pilots." Then you pitch the corp a bit until somebody applies. When they do, make up a bullshit mining op or something to lure them in, then tackle them, kill their drones if they have them, and hold their ship for ransom. Then kill them and loot/salvage the wreck. And repeat.
A great trick is to give them a corporate role, which prevents them from leaving the corp without waiting for a 24 hour timer to run out first. Then you can try to get them to pay you to boot them from the corporation. Until they pay, you follow them around and kill them every time they undock. The carebears will love this, trust me.
You can also use this tactic in a low sec or nullsec context to great effect. "Sure, I'll light a cyno for you, buddy, just give me a few minutes (to batphone my friends...)" You may have to look a little harder to find a target for that sort of thing, but it can be well worth it.
Moderately Difficult
Fishing for Bears
This is lowsec piracy at it's finest, and can be adapted to be done in null or wormholes as well. To pull this off requires a bit of patience, but it can be fun and rewarding. The basic idea is that you find a pocket of lowsec where there is PVE activity happening, and not a lot of competition from other pirates.
Move to the area, get to know it, make lots of bookmarks. Then you wait patiently for a carebear to come along to run a mission or to pick up his planetary materials, and you use dscan and combat scanner probes to hunt them down. When you find him, warp in on them with a combat ship, tackle them and try to extract ransom. A single newbie in a competently fit frigate or destroyer should be able to kill cruisers and battlecruisers this way - remember that most of them will be fit for PVE, not PVP, so it is easier than you might think. Two or three newbies in frigates or dessies can take on most battleships.
I expect that when the Odyssey expansion is released in June we will see an uptick in the number of Bears coming to lowsec to run exploration sites. We should all be prepared to feast upon their tears. Exploration ships often use covops cloaking devices and can be slippery, but they do need to drop their cloaks to actually run sites, so that is where you need to catch them. One way to potentially speed up the process is to proactively scan down and bookmark all the exploration signatures in the system you are working when you first set up for the day, so that you can find these Bears quickly when you get your window of opportunity.
Here is a link to another article I wrote that talks about this in some more detail.
Incidentally, you can also fish for bears in this manner in wormholes or nullsec. It may be a bit more challenging due to the fact that many of your targets will be more situationally aware, but can be more rewarding as well.
Move to the area, get to know it, make lots of bookmarks. Then you wait patiently for a carebear to come along to run a mission or to pick up his planetary materials, and you use dscan and combat scanner probes to hunt them down. When you find him, warp in on them with a combat ship, tackle them and try to extract ransom. A single newbie in a competently fit frigate or destroyer should be able to kill cruisers and battlecruisers this way - remember that most of them will be fit for PVE, not PVP, so it is easier than you might think. Two or three newbies in frigates or dessies can take on most battleships.
I expect that when the Odyssey expansion is released in June we will see an uptick in the number of Bears coming to lowsec to run exploration sites. We should all be prepared to feast upon their tears. Exploration ships often use covops cloaking devices and can be slippery, but they do need to drop their cloaks to actually run sites, so that is where you need to catch them. One way to potentially speed up the process is to proactively scan down and bookmark all the exploration signatures in the system you are working when you first set up for the day, so that you can find these Bears quickly when you get your window of opportunity.
Here is a link to another article I wrote that talks about this in some more detail.
Incidentally, you can also fish for bears in this manner in wormholes or nullsec. It may be a bit more challenging due to the fact that many of your targets will be more situationally aware, but can be more rewarding as well.
Gatecamping
This can be done in low or null, and even in highsec under wardecs. For the purposes of this article, I'm mainly thinking of lowsec, though. Gatecamping is simply the practice of camping out in combat ships on a gate, preferably on a trade route or chokepoint in the region and waiting for targets to walk right into you, then blow them up.
The thing that makes lowsec gatecamping difficult for newbies is the sentry guns. Every gate is surrounded by sentry guns that will shoot at you if you aggress someone who is not considered a valid target (outlaw or wartarget) within 150km of them. If you are in a frigate or destroyer, they will pop you almost instantly. In a tanked cruiser, you should have enough time to warp away before you die. If you warp away, then warp right back, you can resume combat with the same target without taking more gate gun fire.
For newbies to be successful gatecamping, you need to have a fairly large group, generally, and primarily be in cruisers. Warp disruptors are good for the added useful range, stasis webifiers are good to prevent your targets from just burning back to the gate and jumping back through, ECM is great for making sure they don't shoot back at you, and sensor boosters are awesome for making sure that you can lock and tackle them before they can warp off. Your goal in most cases is to blow them up as quickly as you can, not wasting time on ransom, because they may use that time to get back to the gate and run away. As newbies, you should all be in cruisers, with everybody shooting at the targets and warping away then bouncing back as you start taking gate gun damage. A well set up gate camp will also have a cloaked scout sitting on the other side to tell you what will be coming through, so you can get yourselves ready or run away as the situation requires.
Camping in nullsec is also very doable for newbies. In some ways it is better, actually, because you don't need to worry about gate guns, so you can bring out your fast tackle frigates. You can also set up mobile warp disruptors to prevent people from warping off, or catch people warping into your camp from your own system. The drawback is that you seem to catch less random jackoffs from highsec when you are camping in null, and more PvP fleets.
Fucking Hard (for newbies, anyway)
Wardecs
Some people have made an art of aggressive war declarations as a form of piracy. Wardec somebody, and you can blow up or ransom their ships at will in high security space. Or hold their corp for ransom and get them to pay up to drop the wardec. I've tried running these sorts of wardecs myself while leading a corp full of newbies and haven't had any real success with it, hence the classification of "fucking hard". If you find the right targets, this could potentially be a gold mine, but it has some pretty big drawbacks where new players are concerned.
First, to declare war, you need to have your own corporation. That isn't particularly hard or expensive, but then you come to the wardec fee. It starts at 50 million isk per week and scales up with larger corporations. So just to break even you need to take in that much profit each week. That wouldn't be so bad if, having found a juicy target corp and declared war, you could then be sure of getting kills. Unfortunately, though, the defender needs to consent to actually participate in the war. If they say, "Nah...don't feel like a war this week..." then they can just disband and reform their corp to opt out of the whole thing.
All that said, highsec wardecs are a long standing tradition of EVE piracy. You, too, can participate in these and turn a profit if you are bold, clever, and determined. Here is some more reading on the subject. And some more.
Reflections
The conventional wisdom has long been that piracy wasn't something new players could do, but I reject that. Others have said that you can do it, but that you need an isk-generating alt running missions or mining to pay for your combat losses. I reject that as well. By starting with the activities I have talked about and not limiting yourself to one zone of space or one narrow definition of piracy, you should be able to make 100% of the isk you need from theft, extortion, and imaginary spaceship violence without any real difficulty. All you need is a little bit of initiative, a little bit of luck, a little bit of imagination, and a willingness to gleefully fuck over other players in every way that you can.
Good luck, newbies, and fly boldly.
First, to declare war, you need to have your own corporation. That isn't particularly hard or expensive, but then you come to the wardec fee. It starts at 50 million isk per week and scales up with larger corporations. So just to break even you need to take in that much profit each week. That wouldn't be so bad if, having found a juicy target corp and declared war, you could then be sure of getting kills. Unfortunately, though, the defender needs to consent to actually participate in the war. If they say, "Nah...don't feel like a war this week..." then they can just disband and reform their corp to opt out of the whole thing.
All that said, highsec wardecs are a long standing tradition of EVE piracy. You, too, can participate in these and turn a profit if you are bold, clever, and determined. Here is some more reading on the subject. And some more.
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| Random screenshot, cuz EVE is so pretty... |
The life of an EVE pirate is, perhaps, the only worthwhile life in this internet spaceship game we all love. Or, at any rate, it it better than pretty much everything else you could do. Too many EVE players fall into the traps that carebears lay for them, being sucked down the road of doing PVE for their isk and turning up their noses at "unethical gameplay" or "abusing broken game mechanics to grief people". These are just the things that useless carebears say and do to make themselves feel special. You all want to be pirates. I want you all to be pirates. I even believe that CCP wants you all to be pirates - if they actually gave a crap about PVE then the Bears wouldn't still be repeating the same couple dozen missions over and over again, CCP would have given them some new ones sometime in the last i-don't-know-how-many years.
The conventional wisdom has long been that piracy wasn't something new players could do, but I reject that. Others have said that you can do it, but that you need an isk-generating alt running missions or mining to pay for your combat losses. I reject that as well. By starting with the activities I have talked about and not limiting yourself to one zone of space or one narrow definition of piracy, you should be able to make 100% of the isk you need from theft, extortion, and imaginary spaceship violence without any real difficulty. All you need is a little bit of initiative, a little bit of luck, a little bit of imagination, and a willingness to gleefully fuck over other players in every way that you can.
Good luck, newbies, and fly boldly.
Wednesday, April 24, 2013
A Roam to Meet the Newbies
T1 frigate aficionado, so I decided to log in my lately neglected PvP main, Kalim Dabo, hop in a Merlin and go for a solo lowsec roam. I have been hearing a lot of good things about a giant new corporation called Brave Newbies Inc., and figured I would go and pay them a visit in their home system of Rahadalon. I plugged it into my autopilot, set it for "prefer less secure", and settled in for a leisurely 80-something jumps from Solitude.
I had most of the day free to play, so I figured I would take my time and see what sort of fights I could find along the way. At first the trip was pretty uneventful. I crossed paths with a few large blobs that I didn't care to engage, and kept moving. For half a dozen jumps I kept pace with a Tusker in an Incursus who seemed to be heading the same direction. The one T1 frigate that I fairly consistently lose fights to in my Merlin is the Incursus, when it is flown competently, so I considered engaging, but decided against it. He probably could have beaten me, but made no real effort to engage me either. Perhaps he had other plans.
Roaming Kills
I got my first fight when I passed through a faction warfare area. I located a Punisher in a plex and decided to have a go at it. When I went through the acceleration gate I dropped on him pretty much at 0, scrammed and webbed him, and tore into his armor with my blasters. It took a couple minutes of pounding, and he actually put a pretty good hurt on my ASB charges, but his cap eventually ran out and then he died. I warped off to repair and reload just as a Kestrel landed on grid. The system was pretty stirred up, so I decided to move on.
The next bit of action I had was in Molden Heath. I docked up in a station to take a bio break, with a few players from a new German pirate corp called Douchebag Patrol sharing local with me. When I came back and undocked, two of them were waiting for me in Ruptures on the station undock. All of us had pretty respectable sec status (mine was an upstanding -3.1 points), so I just orbited one of them. He decided to scram me, and I immediately docked up and undocked to break his target lock, then got point on him and tackled him while the sentry guns reduced his cruiser to a yellow triangle. Then I pointed his mate, who had agressed me in the meantime, and started shooting. The stations guns were tearing through his armor, and I was tanking his drones pretty well, but I wasn't paying attention to my orbit and drifted out of scram range (noob mistake, I know), and he was able to warp off. Then I looted the one wreck and docked to drop the loot in station, and when I undocked the rupture was back. I started shooting and burned him down. His guns were unable to track me, and he had lost his drones when he warped off. Then I popped his pod.
Rahadalon
After a short detour to restock on cap booster charges and ammo, I soon arrived in the Newbies lair at Rahadalon. 70-ish people in local. I thought, "ok, lets see who I can catch out." Made a safe and scanned the top belt. There was a Thrasher. I warped in, switching to null mid-warp, and burned to him as he was looting an NPC wreck. I managed to kite out at about 8000 meters, keeping him scrammed and webbed, and chew through him with null while his autocannons barely grazed me. Looted the wreck, went to the next system to repair and reload, and came back. Dscanned the top belt again and found a Slasher. Warped in, pointed and burned him down. This was getting fun. Again I jumped over to the next system, repaired, reloaded, dropped off loot, and came back.
By now the Newbies were on to my tricks. They had a fleet out hunting me. We played cat and mouse for about a half hour. In the end, it culminated with about 15 of them, all in frigates, and one of me, sitting on a gate together. They couldn't attack me without getting blapped by the sentry guns. Some of them were already -5 permaflashies, so I decided to just start fighting those guys one by one while the rest of them orbited and watched. I had no real strategy in it other than not shooting at the Ewar frigs. First I killed a Slasher, then a Merlin. During the fights several of them attacked me and got themselves blapped. There was a bit of banter in local and one guy challenged me to a duel, which I ignored. The Merlin pilot was actually pretty good, another ASB fit, and by the time he went down I was out of charges and into armor, and the Newbies decided, fuck it, they would gank me, gate guns be damned. My Merlin died in a blaze of glory, I warped off my pod, and good fights were had all around. The one guy still wanted a duel, but alas, I had no ship. And so ended my roam and my first encounter with Brave Newbies Inc. 7 killmails and one loss, a good day, and I don't know how many more died to the gate guns.
Impressions
As an Eve University grad, I can't help but compare the experience of visiting E-Uni's lowsec campus (LSC) with visiting the Newbies in their home. From time to time I have gotten the idea in my head to get in a frigate and visit the LSC looking for fights. It is almost always a disappointment for me, mainly because when I'm in local they either dock up or organize a well disciplined blob and set out to hunt me. While I can generally evade these blobs in lowsec (i'm really good, i know), they don't spread out and give easy kills, they almost never even respond if you ask for 1v1s in local (I've even offered 2v1s and 3v1s when there were more than 30 of them around, and heard only crickets). Their entire philosophy of PvP, with the exception of certain individuals, is to play to win, not to take excessive chances and give up ships. And not to talk to hostile parties. (boring)
Visiting Brave Newbies was altogether a different sort of experience. While they clearly can and do mobilize a fleet to deal with a threat, they don't seem to panic when somebody loses a ship out in a belt. The first guy I killed chatted with me in local about my fit, the second one convo'd me and told me how I caught him by surprise, and was a great sport about it. The whole blob scene at the end was quite unlike anything I have ever experienced. It was truly a memorable PvP moment. In the end they gleefully suicided themselves to the gate guns to kill me, something I can't even imagine an E-Uni fleet doing. E-Uni would have docked up unless they had something that could tank the gate guns (which they probably would, because they actually have an abundance of veteran players).
All in all, I have to say that I am impressed by Brave Newbies Inc. All the rumors I had heard were about their great fighting spirit, and I was not disappointed.
So what is next for me? We'll see.
Thursday, March 21, 2013
Psychotic Monk for CSM8
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| James 315 drops out of the race for CSM8 |
My point is, James 315 just dropped out of the CSM race for very good, very valid reasons. While he has the admiration of almost everybody who plays EVE, and was practically guaranteed a win, he chose not to accept having his voice silenced by non-disclosure agreements as a condition of his ticket to Iceland. I salute his courage and respect his humility.
In the meantime, only one serious candidate remains in the election who represents highsec PvP and piracy. As those who engage in ninja looting, suicide ganking, wardeccing, AWOXing, "griefing", and generally every form of non-consensual PvP that happens in high security space, we have only one candidate for CSM who represents us. That person is Psychotic Monk, blogger and co-founder of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
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| Vote Psychotic Monk for CSM8 |
Yes, the CSM is a joke, and it doesn't really matter in any meaningful way who wins and who loses, but sometimes winning for the sake of winning is important. Don't let the carebears win. Vote for Psychotic Monk.
This concludes the first and probably last political post that you will ever see on this blog (until the time comes for me to run for my own free Iceland vacation).
Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Bot on Safari
Lately there has been a lot of hype about getting new players into the dark side of EVE, particularly Safariing or AWOXing carebears in highsec. For those of you who aren't familiar with this activity, it is the act of joining a corporation with the specific intention of going on a gleeful killing spree of it's members, taking advantage of the mechanics which allow a character to shoot members of his own corporation in high security space without being CONCORDed.
I've been hearing a lot about this lately, particularly from the community of my fellow Belligerent Undesirables. I've been encouraging my own alliance members to go out and Safari carebear corporations, and to set a good example I decided to try it out myself. Here is how it played out.
Target: NXS Mineral and Ore Extraction
To find a target I checked the corporate recruitment ads in the EVE Online forums. NXS was the first industrial corp listed. So I sent in a blind application with my Safari alt, who I had rolled a couple of days earlier. The app read "I'm a new player looking to join some mining fleets." Then I logged off, and a couple of hours later, EVEMon was telling me that I had a notification that my app had been accepted.
First Kill: Retriever
After that I logged in for an hour or so wach day, but there were only a couple of people flying around, and they were just in Retrievers. I was pretty sure from their advert that they sometimes did mining fleets with their Orca, so I waited. After 3 days or so, nobody had undocked in an Orca while I was on, so I decided to cut my losses and try another corp. Reluctantly I undocked, used the in-game map to locate the one guy who was out mining at that time ("find corp members in space"), went to his belt, said "ohai!" in local and blew him up.
We got into a bit of entertaining smacktalk in corp chat after this. The log is a bit too lengthy to post all of it here, but I do like to share, so here it is.
Anyway, basically I figured I'd just play the thing out from there. I was kind of in a hurry to find a juicier target and move on, but felt obligated to at least try for some kind of ransom first. They were pretty much newbs, for the most part, so I started at 50 mil, and dropped the price to 30 mil a bit later. By the time I got done bantering with them, it was getting fairly late, so I opted to stay in space cloaked up for the night so they couldn't boot me, and see who would be on in the morning. A few corp mails went out:
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| Haedonism Bot goes on Safari |
Target: NXS Mineral and Ore Extraction
To find a target I checked the corporate recruitment ads in the EVE Online forums. NXS was the first industrial corp listed. So I sent in a blind application with my Safari alt, who I had rolled a couple of days earlier. The app read "I'm a new player looking to join some mining fleets." Then I logged off, and a couple of hours later, EVEMon was telling me that I had a notification that my app had been accepted.
First Kill: Retriever
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| First Kill. |
We got into a bit of entertaining smacktalk in corp chat after this. The log is a bit too lengthy to post all of it here, but I do like to share, so here it is.
Anyway, basically I figured I'd just play the thing out from there. I was kind of in a hurry to find a juicier target and move on, but felt obligated to at least try for some kind of ransom first. They were pretty much newbs, for the most part, so I started at 50 mil, and dropped the price to 30 mil a bit later. By the time I got done bantering with them, it was getting fairly late, so I opted to stay in space cloaked up for the night so they couldn't boot me, and see who would be on in the morning. A few corp mails went out:
To which I replied:
And as a parting thought:
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| Important Information. |
...and with that I went to bed.
Second Kill: Noctis
The next day I logged in, afked a bit until a couple of people were online. This corp was really sleepy, usually there were just one or two at a time. Eventually I found two of them on in the same system, a dead end system with one gate out and no stations. I figured they were either mining or running missions, so I went there, thinking I'd camp the other side of the gate and catch them as they jumped out to turn in their mission or empty their ore holds or whatever. A weird coincidence in timing happened though. As I landed on the gate they were both there, in a Raven and a Noctis. The Raven warped off, and the Noctis jumped into the dead-end system. I jumped after, but my reaction time was slow, and he warped off. So I jumped back, put my drones out and waited. i figured the Raven probably had no point fitted, so I wasn't scared of it. (Would have hunted it down, actually, if I had logi support with me. The Noctis had to come out of there sometime, though.
Second Kill: Noctis
The next day I logged in, afked a bit until a couple of people were online. This corp was really sleepy, usually there were just one or two at a time. Eventually I found two of them on in the same system, a dead end system with one gate out and no stations. I figured they were either mining or running missions, so I went there, thinking I'd camp the other side of the gate and catch them as they jumped out to turn in their mission or empty their ore holds or whatever. A weird coincidence in timing happened though. As I landed on the gate they were both there, in a Raven and a Noctis. The Raven warped off, and the Noctis jumped into the dead-end system. I jumped after, but my reaction time was slow, and he warped off. So I jumped back, put my drones out and waited. i figured the Raven probably had no point fitted, so I wasn't scared of it. (Would have hunted it down, actually, if I had logi support with me. The Noctis had to come out of there sometime, though.
At this point, they have noticed that I am ATK, so they begin to talk to me in corp chat. Neither of these guys had been online during the previous night's Retriever kill, so they were a bit confused about what was happening. I played it like the whole thing had been a sort of practical joke between the retriever and I.
- [23:46:52] Zortron Andros > could we have a word ?
- [23:46:57] Unexpected Platypus > sure
- [23:47:08] Zortron Andros > care to explain what happened ?
- [23:47:43] Unexpected Platypus > oh, we were just joking around, don't trouble yourself about it :D
- [23:48:03] Unexpected Platypus > those guys are such kidders
- [23:48:29] Zortron Andros > well, you did kill his retriever
- [23:49:09] Unexpected Platypus > yes, well, i have a medical condition. my finger twitches uncontrollably near the F1 key sometimes
- [23:49:17] Unexpected Platypus > nothing ii can do about it....
- [23:50:30] Zortron Andros > so it was a one sided joke
- [23:51:15] Unexpected Platypus > yeah, i apologized and reimbursed his isk, but he just wants to keep the joke going i guess, haha to each their own
- [23:51:48] Zortron Andros > that i'll have to confirm with him.
- [23:51:55] Unexpected Platypus > ofc
- [23:51:55] Zortron Andros > how can we know you'll not do the same again?
- [23:52:18] Unexpected Platypus > you have my word on it
- [23:53:59] Zortron Andros > good to know
- [23:55:23] Zortron Andros > so what are you up to now?
- [23:56:02] Zortron Andros > ok
- [23:56:06] Zortron Andros > are you sure about that ?
- [23:56:58] Zortron Andros > really ?
- [23:57:02] Zortron Andros > are you that person?
- [23:57:30] Unexpected Platypus > haha
- [23:57:33] Unexpected Platypus > guess so
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| Second Kill. |
Right about when Zortron said, "so what are you up to now?" was when he jumped his Noctis back through the gate, and of course I pointed him and blew him up. Here are the full chat logs for your enjoyment.
That was pretty much the end of this safari adventure. I chatted a bit with the one guy who stayed logged in (a good guy, actually, who I still talk to from time to time), and left the corp to find more lucrative targets, then got caught up in some alliance business, and haven't safaried again since.
Final Impressions
Safariing people is really fun. This particular Safari didn't result in any noteworthy kills, but once I made the decision to actually start shooting, the whole thing was really amusing. There was a fair amount of downtime, when I was afk cloaked and just hanging out doing things on another account, but when the killing was happening, it was as satisfying as any other dastardly deeds that I have committed in EVE. This is also an activity that new players can do with a bit of direction and mentoring, which is also great. Next time I think I will target a larger corp though, this corp had 24 members at the time, and there were usually no more than 3 online.
Have fun and fly dangerously.
Wednesday, March 6, 2013
Zybber's First Fleet
This is an after action report I took from our alliance forums, prettied up for blogging. Enjoy!
So I was minding my own business yesterday, when Zybber, an Icelandic chap who recently joined RVFRO remarked in corp chat that he had missed the previous night's Thrasher roam, and he had yet to get his first PvP kill. Obviously this was a situation that needed to be taken care of. So I decided to take him out into the asteroid belts of Solitude and gank a few miners. As we were getting ourselves ready, a few more guys logged on and decided to join the fun. I sent my spotter out into the belts in Boystin, and quickly found a small mining fleet, including an Orca and two Hulks, as well as assorted barges. A surreptitious scan confirmed that the Hulks had no tank. I did a few quick calculations and decided that we had enough DPS to kill both Hulks simultaneously. I would solo one of them with my 624 DPS Catalyst, while all of the other guys hit the other one.
This was the result.
We got a little bit of local smack out of it:
[ 2013.03.02 00:25:27 ] Kalim Dabo > gf
[ 2013.03.02 00:27:54 ] Dirk Scabbard > did you kill anything?
[ 2013.03.02 00:28:06 ] Kalim Dabo > Kill: ZIF W (Hulk)
[ 2013.03.02 00:29:11 ] LackofGuilt > fagits die in a fire
[ 2013.03.02 00:40:18 ] Aragoni > "fagits". Cool story bro
and a supporter hopped in our public channel to congratulate us:
[ 2013.03.02 00:38:58 ] Dirk Scabbard > I wondered why so many people were in local when I logged on
[ 2013.03.02 00:39:19 ] Marcus Aler0n > lol
[ 2013.03.02 00:39:56 ] Kalim Dabo > 11o/
[ 2013.03.02 00:39:58 ] Kalim Dabo > 0/
[ 2013.03.02 00:40:08 ] Kalim Dabo > cannot type today lol
[ 2013.03.02 00:40:15 ] Marcus Aler0n > I forgive you.
[ 2013.03.02 00:41:41 ] Dirk Scabbard > y'all solved a problem for me - yesterday I abandoned 5 Hob IIs in space: today I picked up 5 abandoned Hob IIs
[ 2013.03.02 00:41:49 ] Marcus Aler0n > lol
[ 2013.03.02 00:41:49 ] Kalim Dabo > lol
[ 2013.03.02 00:41:57 ] Kaleo Faust > glad we could help
[ 2013.03.02 00:42:00 ] Kalim Dabo > glad we could do you that service
[ 2013.03.02 00:42:55 ] Dirk Scabbard > Is it standard to put strip miner I on a Hulk?
[ 2013.03.02 00:44:33 ] Kalim Dabo > i have only seen that in places where ppl expected to be ganked, pretty unusual
[ 2013.03.02 00:45:19 ] Kalim Dabo > we were wondering why he went with the expensive mining upgrades, but T2 lasers and no crytals at all
[ 2013.03.02 00:45:30 ] Marcus Aler0n > ;lol
[ 2013.03.02 00:45:51 ] Marcus Aler0n > I put strip miner1's on a hulk cos I'm lazy and don't wanna fuck with crystals.
[ 2013.03.02 00:46:31 ] Dirk Scabbard > what are those mining upgrades worth?
[ 2013.03.02 00:46:39 ] Kalim Dabo > 15 mil each
[ 2013.03.02 00:46:47 ] Dirk Scabbard > well done
[ 2013.03.02 00:47:10 ] Kalim Dabo > yeah, usually you actually lose money killing miners
[ 2013.03.02 00:47:28 ] Kalim Dabo > it's more for sport than anything else
[ 2013.03.02 00:48:09 ] Dirk Scabbard > I'll bet you surprised them - you surprised me that you came to this neighborhood to gank miners
[ 2013.03.02 00:50:26 ] Kalim Dabo > haha
[ 2013.03.02 00:50:53 ] Kalim Dabo > it's always more fun when they least expect it
We made one mistake in this engagement - I forgot to remind everybody to take their safeties off prior to the warp-in. So while I was cheerfully exploding my target, they were fumbling with their safeties, and barely got a shot off before CONCORD arrived. Oh well, live and learn.
Anyway, more people logged on and wanted to join, so we waited out our timers and reshipped, then went out scouting more targets. A quick check of the ice belt in Niballe revealed 5 Mackinaws going about their business. I scanned a few of them and found 2 without significant tank. The challenge here was that they were spread out all over the belt. We had six or seven guys at this point, and it seemed a waste to just take one down. So I set up two bookmarks "Gank1" and "Gank2", and divided the squad to spread the DPS to kill both of them. All that was fine, but I made a few serious mistakes in the execution.(Perhaps a few too many beers at this point ) I put the two groups in separate comms with separate direction to carry out the gank. This was stupid of me. I could have had us all warp to our respective targets at the same time, targets them at the same time, and fire at the same time without splitting us up like that. What can I say, I'm bad at EVE. Also, I myself warped to the wrong bookmark, meaning we had too much DPS on one target and not enough on the other. Anyway, we popped one Mack with a Pithi shield booster, and I got his pod too. Unfortunately the loot gods did not smile that day.
Mackinaw kill and Pod
We got a bit more reaction this time:
[ 2013.03.02 01:15:51 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Local : Niballe
[ 2013.03.02 01:46:18 ] lxAlvoxl > wow guys really
[ 2013.03.02 01:46:33 ] Kalim Dabo > gf
[ 2013.03.02 01:46:34 ] Cael Sotken > yep
[ 2013.03.02 01:46:36 ] Cael Sotken > gf
[ 2013.03.02 01:46:39 ] Geyene > gf
[ 2013.03.02 01:46:49 ] Aragoni > GF
[ 2013.03.02 01:47:00 ] Melony Matudan > Marked Kos, watch your backs
[ 2013.03.02 01:47:17 ] Aragoni > and not a single care was given this day.
[ 2013.03.02 01:47:31 ] Kalim Dabo > oooooooooooh so scared
[ 2013.03.02 01:47:55 ] Melony Matudan > good
[ 2013.03.02 01:48:04 ] Kalim Dabo > http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfvpbpKscl1qafrh6.gif
[ 2013.03.02 01:48:41 ] Pyotr Kropotkin > poor bear =(
[ 2013.03.02 01:48:59 ] Melony Matudan > unsuspecting targets are the best targets
[ 2013.03.02 01:49:21 ] Geyene > unfortunately, you just told ust told us we're your targets
[ 2013.03.02 01:49:27 ] Geyene > soooooo we're kind of expecting it now
[ 2013.03.02 01:50:24 ] Melony Matudan > well you said you dont care lol so dont care haha
[ 2013.03.02 01:51:58 ] Sara Steel > you guys want to buy some new thrashers or guns for em?
[ 2013.03.02 01:53:10 ] Kalim Dabo > sure
Sara Steel was an ice miner in the belt who watched it all go down, and was eager to supply us with guns and ships to continue taking out his industrial rivals. He then convoed me:
[ 2013.03.02 01:53:27 ] Sara Steel > o/
[ 2013.03.02 01:53:33 ] Kalim Dabo > 0/
[ 2013.03.02 01:53:36 ] Sara Steel > what kind of guns you need for em?
[ 2013.03.02 01:53:41 ] Sara Steel > and/or other stuff
[ 2013.03.02 01:53:44 ] Kalim Dabo > lol
[ 2013.03.02 01:54:20 ] Kalim Dabo > we actually don't need them atm, but could use T2 light neutron blasters and 200mm autocannons soon
[ 2013.03.02 01:54:41 ] Kalim Dabo > good right atm, don't have much isk on my hands
[ 2013.03.02 01:54:44 ] Sara Steel > rgr.. I'll see if I can fire up some production on em
[ 2013.03.02 01:54:59 ] Kalim Dabo > cool
[ 2013.03.02 01:55:07 ] Kalim Dabo > talk to you soon then
[ 2013.03.02 01:55:14 ] Sara Steel > I'll try and make it a good deal you helped me by blowing up my comptition out here
[ 2013.03.02 01:55:29 ] Sara Steel > and helped me and my associates sell our products.. macks and ice harvesters
[ 2013.03.02 01:55:36 ] Kalim Dabo > haha
[ 2013.03.02 01:55:50 ] Kalim Dabo > good times
[ 2013.03.02 01:55:58 ] Sara Steel > can you link me the kill? I want to know how stupid he was fitted
[ 2013.03.02 01:56:37 ] Kalim Dabo > Kill: Ursas Gasiminika (Mackinaw)
[ 2013.03.02 01:56:50 ] Kalim Dabo > pithi shoeld booster
[ 2013.03.02 01:56:53 ] Sara Steel > Wow.. nice loot
[ 2013.03.02 01:56:54 ] Sara Steel > pity it didn't drop
[ 2013.03.02 01:57:11 ] Kalim Dabo > loot gods didn't really smile on us, but good bragging rights
[ 2013.03.02 01:57:50 ] Kalim Dabo > later o7
You have to love how opportunistic EVE players are - as we called it a night and left the system, another guy was complaining in local about the poor quality of salvage he had gotten from our little adventure.
After the last kill, I hear an unmistakably Scandanavian accent in Teamspeak. It was Zybber. "Uh...I fucked up man. You want me to loot the wrecks?" Poor guy missed the warp-in and didn't get a shot off. Rest assured, I'll make sure he kills something soon.
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| Young terrorist: Zybber |
We got a little bit of local smack out of it:
[ 2013.03.02 00:25:27 ] Kalim Dabo > gf
[ 2013.03.02 00:27:54 ] Dirk Scabbard > did you kill anything?
[ 2013.03.02 00:28:06 ] Kalim Dabo > Kill: ZIF W (Hulk)
[ 2013.03.02 00:29:11 ] LackofGuilt > fagits die in a fire
[ 2013.03.02 00:40:18 ] Aragoni > "fagits". Cool story bro
and a supporter hopped in our public channel to congratulate us:
[ 2013.03.02 00:38:58 ] Dirk Scabbard > I wondered why so many people were in local when I logged on
[ 2013.03.02 00:39:19 ] Marcus Aler0n > lol
[ 2013.03.02 00:39:56 ] Kalim Dabo > 11o/
[ 2013.03.02 00:39:58 ] Kalim Dabo > 0/
[ 2013.03.02 00:40:08 ] Kalim Dabo > cannot type today lol
[ 2013.03.02 00:40:15 ] Marcus Aler0n > I forgive you.
[ 2013.03.02 00:41:41 ] Dirk Scabbard > y'all solved a problem for me - yesterday I abandoned 5 Hob IIs in space: today I picked up 5 abandoned Hob IIs
[ 2013.03.02 00:41:49 ] Marcus Aler0n > lol
[ 2013.03.02 00:41:49 ] Kalim Dabo > lol
[ 2013.03.02 00:41:57 ] Kaleo Faust > glad we could help
[ 2013.03.02 00:42:00 ] Kalim Dabo > glad we could do you that service
[ 2013.03.02 00:42:55 ] Dirk Scabbard > Is it standard to put strip miner I on a Hulk?
[ 2013.03.02 00:44:33 ] Kalim Dabo > i have only seen that in places where ppl expected to be ganked, pretty unusual
[ 2013.03.02 00:45:19 ] Kalim Dabo > we were wondering why he went with the expensive mining upgrades, but T2 lasers and no crytals at all
[ 2013.03.02 00:45:30 ] Marcus Aler0n > ;lol
[ 2013.03.02 00:45:51 ] Marcus Aler0n > I put strip miner1's on a hulk cos I'm lazy and don't wanna fuck with crystals.
[ 2013.03.02 00:46:31 ] Dirk Scabbard > what are those mining upgrades worth?
[ 2013.03.02 00:46:39 ] Kalim Dabo > 15 mil each
[ 2013.03.02 00:46:47 ] Dirk Scabbard > well done
[ 2013.03.02 00:47:10 ] Kalim Dabo > yeah, usually you actually lose money killing miners
[ 2013.03.02 00:47:28 ] Kalim Dabo > it's more for sport than anything else
[ 2013.03.02 00:48:09 ] Dirk Scabbard > I'll bet you surprised them - you surprised me that you came to this neighborhood to gank miners
[ 2013.03.02 00:50:26 ] Kalim Dabo > haha
[ 2013.03.02 00:50:53 ] Kalim Dabo > it's always more fun when they least expect it
We made one mistake in this engagement - I forgot to remind everybody to take their safeties off prior to the warp-in. So while I was cheerfully exploding my target, they were fumbling with their safeties, and barely got a shot off before CONCORD arrived. Oh well, live and learn.
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| Ragtag band of Gankers |
Mackinaw kill and Pod
We got a bit more reaction this time:
[ 2013.03.02 01:46:18 ] lxAlvoxl > wow guys really
[ 2013.03.02 01:46:33 ] Kalim Dabo > gf
[ 2013.03.02 01:46:34 ] Cael Sotken > yep
[ 2013.03.02 01:46:36 ] Cael Sotken > gf
[ 2013.03.02 01:46:39 ] Geyene > gf
[ 2013.03.02 01:46:49 ] Aragoni > GF
[ 2013.03.02 01:47:00 ] Melony Matudan > Marked Kos, watch your backs
[ 2013.03.02 01:47:17 ] Aragoni > and not a single care was given this day.
[ 2013.03.02 01:47:31 ] Kalim Dabo > oooooooooooh so scared
[ 2013.03.02 01:47:55 ] Melony Matudan > good
[ 2013.03.02 01:48:04 ] Kalim Dabo > http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfvpbpKscl1qafrh6.gif
[ 2013.03.02 01:48:41 ] Pyotr Kropotkin > poor bear =(
[ 2013.03.02 01:48:59 ] Melony Matudan > unsuspecting targets are the best targets
[ 2013.03.02 01:49:21 ] Geyene > unfortunately, you just told ust told us we're your targets
[ 2013.03.02 01:49:27 ] Geyene > soooooo we're kind of expecting it now
[ 2013.03.02 01:50:24 ] Melony Matudan > well you said you dont care lol so dont care haha
[ 2013.03.02 01:51:58 ] Sara Steel > you guys want to buy some new thrashers or guns for em?
[ 2013.03.02 01:53:10 ] Kalim Dabo > sure
Sara Steel was an ice miner in the belt who watched it all go down, and was eager to supply us with guns and ships to continue taking out his industrial rivals. He then convoed me:
[ 2013.03.02 01:53:27 ] Sara Steel > o/
[ 2013.03.02 01:53:33 ] Kalim Dabo > 0/
[ 2013.03.02 01:53:36 ] Sara Steel > what kind of guns you need for em?
[ 2013.03.02 01:53:41 ] Sara Steel > and/or other stuff
[ 2013.03.02 01:53:44 ] Kalim Dabo > lol
[ 2013.03.02 01:54:20 ] Kalim Dabo > we actually don't need them atm, but could use T2 light neutron blasters and 200mm autocannons soon
[ 2013.03.02 01:54:41 ] Kalim Dabo > good right atm, don't have much isk on my hands
[ 2013.03.02 01:54:44 ] Sara Steel > rgr.. I'll see if I can fire up some production on em
[ 2013.03.02 01:54:59 ] Kalim Dabo > cool
[ 2013.03.02 01:55:07 ] Kalim Dabo > talk to you soon then
[ 2013.03.02 01:55:14 ] Sara Steel > I'll try and make it a good deal you helped me by blowing up my comptition out here
[ 2013.03.02 01:55:29 ] Sara Steel > and helped me and my associates sell our products.. macks and ice harvesters
[ 2013.03.02 01:55:36 ] Kalim Dabo > haha
[ 2013.03.02 01:55:50 ] Kalim Dabo > good times
[ 2013.03.02 01:55:58 ] Sara Steel > can you link me the kill? I want to know how stupid he was fitted
[ 2013.03.02 01:56:37 ] Kalim Dabo > Kill: Ursas Gasiminika (Mackinaw)
[ 2013.03.02 01:56:50 ] Kalim Dabo > pithi shoeld booster
[ 2013.03.02 01:56:53 ] Sara Steel > Wow.. nice loot
[ 2013.03.02 01:56:54 ] Sara Steel > pity it didn't drop
[ 2013.03.02 01:57:11 ] Kalim Dabo > loot gods didn't really smile on us, but good bragging rights
[ 2013.03.02 01:57:50 ] Kalim Dabo > later o7
You have to love how opportunistic EVE players are - as we called it a night and left the system, another guy was complaining in local about the poor quality of salvage he had gotten from our little adventure.
After the last kill, I hear an unmistakably Scandanavian accent in Teamspeak. It was Zybber. "Uh...I fucked up man. You want me to loot the wrecks?" Poor guy missed the warp-in and didn't get a shot off. Rest assured, I'll make sure he kills something soon.
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